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Cultures collide: Somali youth harass gay man at Pride

gayprideharass-150x104Cultures collided Sunday when a gay man was harassed by more than a dozen Somali youths while heading home after the Twin Cities GLBT Pride Festival. Shouting “I hate gay people,” “Fuck gay people,” and “Gay is not the way,” the youths followed the man for several blocks. The entire incident was caught on video.

The person who posted the video to YouTube wrote:

My friend and I were leaving the Gay Pride Festival … and came across a group of Somalian kids who asked my friend if he was gay. When he answered “yes”, they proceeded to harass him and me with verbal threats and even throwing rocks at my friend at one point.

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104 Comments

Mac
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 2:15 pm Deport those loser kids…


Mary
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 2:22 pm These are *kids* — what horrible things must they be hearing, how tragically they’re being raised if they’re this mob-driven and hateful so young.


jimbo
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 2:43 pm Lol. Is that a cop passing by who looks at the camera at 0:59? He’s kinda cute.


Bill Murray
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 3:00 pm t-bag, you sound like the biggest bigot here.


JJ416
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 3:13 pm Is this America or somewhere in the Middle East?Some of these kids dressed like they were in Saudi Arabia!These are some of the kids that were being recruited for Jihad in Africa and maybe carry out Jihad in America in the near future.Close these mosques that teach these kids hate and darkness.


t-bag jones
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 3:23 pm I’m hardly a bigot. I just hate seeing progress taking two steps back by people who should know better.
They don’t like to be called terrorists, gay people don’t like rocks thrown at their head. I am a veteran. I have seen tyranny up close. We don’t stone people in this country. If you want to throw rocks and taunt and abuse people, then stay in your Third World country.
If you cannot be civil, then you do not deserve the right to emigrate to a new country. If you want to be an American, it doesn’t help if you emigrate, and absorb the worst parts of this country’s attitudes.


Anna Rose
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 3:32 pm I have two concerns here:a) The kids have been collectively identified as “Somali youths.” How do we know that?
b) Even if we do know that, why is it important to even mention that (or that they’re from South Africa, or Japan, or Iceland, or Australia, or wherever)?That said — someone should submit an official report to the police department. Because of the group of kids had been using racial, ethnic or anti-Semitic slurs to taunt someone, you know darn well that the police would have intervened. That the officers just walked on by with barely a glance is both disturbing and flatly unprofessional. Talk about not fulfilling your sworn responsibility.


Halimo
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 3:56 pm This is not Cultures collide, Im sorry to say because Somali culture it’s very important to have respect for person who’s older then you and respect others no matter who they are.This is the case of parental failure. Most of today’s youth are loose animals no matter which country they from. It’s a shame that this kids their parents havin’t tought them principle and morals and guide them to respect the law. This kids their failed parents doesn’t represents Somali parents nor Somali culture overall cos my wonderfull Somali parents raised me with their culture to respect others and the law of the country I live and brought me up with strong principles,morals and values.
Their parent must be be addressed for their responsibility, if they dont take their responsiblity deport those failed parents to Mexican Flu..!


Jeremy Hanson
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 4:19 pm Those are not Minneapolis police officers passing by in the video. They appear to be private security from 1313 Nicollet. I wish the victims of this harassment would have called 911 so city police could have done something about it. Unless people are willing to call 911 when they are being harassed, it will continue.


Mo
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 7:17 pm Question for MN Independent: Why do you need to mention the kids’ ethnicity? Does it give more weight to the article or do you regularly mention the ethnicity or race of every group you write about?Cultural collide? Kids yelling at an adult who is laughing at them the whole time while armed private security passing by ignoring whatever these kids are chanting about? Is this your description of cultural collision? Huh. If anything criminal were taking place, the armed security would intervene or at least alert the authorities. Stop sensationalizing everything you write about. The title should have read: Kids acting kids again. Hardly anyone would click on it but that’s what the article is all about.And how come you did not write the part where these kids left alone [on their own] the ‘gay’ man they were ‘harassing’? You must run out of space or ink.


Ali Husayn Hasan
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 9:13 pm One thing to keep in mind is that these are children. Secondly I think its save to assume that these children where born here so its a little hyperbolic of the Independent to claim a clash of cultures, perhaps Subculture. Like one person said, children in somalia dare not even look someone older then them the wrong way. Lastly, the state should take these children from the parents not because they are anti gay, most American are but because they are clearly not raising their kids and should be taught a lesson themselves.


Jay
Comment posted June 30, 2009 @ 11:22 pm These are American kids, born and bred here though their parents are from Somalia. It is sad when you try to correct but at the same time doing the bashing and the hate mongering. Again these are American kids since they were born here.


Mohamed Mohamed
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 1:01 am Anna Rose, you asked “The kids have been collectively identified as “Somali youths.” How do we know that?” I know they are Somalians because of their foreheads…the kids have formidable and shiny foreheads! Somalians, according the website urbandictionary.com, are associated with a giant foreheads, you think I’m kidding, check out http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Somalian+forehead


Somali man
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 1:07 am Homophobia is preached in Somali households and Mosques. Of course these kids are Somalis and they should be identified as such.
It is sad and despecable how homophobic and uncivilized these kids are.


Lori
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 1:11 am First, as an American Muslim, I am appalled by the behavior of the youth in the video. Muslims, including Somalis, themselves are the victims of hate and bias and if we expect others to not discriminate against us, we must never discriminate against others and must uphold civil rights for all. No one deserves to be treated this way and it saddens me to see this video.Second, let’s be careful to not let our anger stereotype and disparage Muslims and Somalis. Accusing Muslim places of worship of “teaching these kids hate and darkness,” mocking cultural dress, calling people terrorists, telling people to go back to their country, asking for “more waterboarding,” referring to people as “maggots,” etc is just as bigoted as the actions of the youth in the video.This is a group of misguided kids with a mob mentality. Is it fair to look at the actions of 10-12 kids (who may or may not even be Somali and/or Muslim) and make judgments about an entire cultural or religious group? Absolutely not.


Ali
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 6:17 am This is not a ”clash of cultures” but a pure criminality towards a man on the basis of his sexuality. As a gay Somali man I know more than most of you, the intolerance and insecurity shown by the Somali people when it comes to dealing with issues they cannot confront intellectually. These terrible kids were not born with such homophobia, but their behaviour is the result of years of indoctrination at home by their parents. Hopefuly, as time passes the Somali people will learn enough from their host communities and change their attitudes towards those who are different to them.


John
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 8:01 am Lets reverse the roles and see if a group of white guys were yelling racial ephithats at the black kids…We hate Ni66er$, Ni66er$ should die, Etc. How would that be interpretated?This is why as a gay man I carry a concealed weapon and pepper spray


Mohammed Kassim
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 8:23 am Wait a minute! Ali please change your name if you are gay, you cant be a Muslim and yet familiarize yourself with an identity which is a direct confrontation to our teachings. Homosexuality is an abominable conduct and a heinous habit which people inherited from the people of Lout (Lot) . Because of the enormity of this sin, God inflicted a severe punishment on them, which God mentioned in His Book. Gabriel took these people up to the first heaven and then he turned them down on earth. We ask God to protect us. This punishment is enough a deterrence!


Laeren
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 8:25 am The man in the video is a personal friend of mine, and I live 2 blocks from where this happened. He’s only laughing becuase that’s the only thing he could do at the time. When you have 20 kids jeering at you, and then throwing rocks, you either have to laugh it off or you get angry and people get hurt, and he chose to try to laugh it off and try walk away from it. The kids only disengaged becuase they reached a main thoroughfare in Minneapolis (Nicollet Mall), and there were a lot more people there. Also, they ran out of rocks and there was an actual police officer nearby directing traffic. You can see in the video that some of the kids shy off when the 2 rent-a-cops (security guards from a nearby apartment building) walk by.I resent the person who says “this is just kids being kids”. If that’s how you raise your kids to be (homophobic, violent, insulting, disrespectful and bigoted) then it appears there are more problems here than with these kids in the video. Intolerance is intolerance, no matter the age, and I fully blame the parents of these kids for doing a slack-jawed job of raising them to be respectful members of society.


jhimmi
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 9:51 am It’s called Islam. It’s called Sharia. Get used to it. Islam, and Mohammed, and Sharia, mandate capital punishment for homosexuality. No caveats. If you’re Muslim and you don’t agree, you are deviating from Sunni Islam and Shia Islam, which make up over 90% of the world’s Muslims, and the overwhelming majority of Muslim scholars or ulema, imams, sheikhs, ayatollahs, etc., etc.For all the gay bashing Christians, and the Christian bashers – what did Jesus ever do, or have done, to a homosexual? Or anyone who committed a sexual ‘crime’? The only thing that comes to mind is, ‘he who is without sin cast the first stone’ when an adulterer was to be stoned.Disclosure: I’m not a Christian. I think homosexuality is a psychological disorder, like OCD or necrophelia. I don’t hate homosexuals. I think consenting adults (repeat – adults) should be able to do whatever they want in their own bedroom. If a man seduces a 15 year old boy, he’s no different than any bother pedophile and should be put away.


Pirate
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 9:54 am It’s pretty despicable to make this into a bashing of Somali culture or to say this is a result of cultures colliding. I work with teenagers and I can tell you, without a doubt, that I hear nasty homophobic things being said by teenagers of all cultural, ethnic, and socio-economic backgrounds. This isn’t a Somali problem; this is a societal problem. The message is still being sent to our young people that it’s OK to harass someone because of their sexuality (not the mention the fact that you’ve just additionally sent the message to our young people that it’s OK to make disparaging remarks about someone because they are Somali). Don’t turn this into yet another case of self-righteous Minnesotans scapegoating Somali immigrants and Somali-Americans; that’s just pathetic.


Mohammed Kassim
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 10:36 am If we have the guts to stand up and speak up like these
young brothers, we can speak up against the oppresion
of somalis at home and around the world.
Kudos to young Brothers!!!


clive
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 3:01 pm Mohammed Kassim,
Shame on you.
Oppression?
These young kids should realize the gift they and their families have been given (and perhaps you). Access to food, clean water, education, and (most of) a society, that, provided they act respectful and contribute, welcomes them with open arms. American society is not always perfect (racism, discrimination,etc). But you endorsing actions like this will not end the ‘oppression’ you speak of, but instead make it worse. Don’t burn your bridges. If you don’t like the fact that we here in America (most of us anyways) do not hate people because of their sexual preferences, you are free to go elsewhere. Do not try to spread your extremist views in our country. We have enough zealots to deal with already.This makes me angry. We accept Somalians here, helping them escape a war-torn, corrupt country. The least you can do is try to contribute to our way of life, and keep your extremist views to yourself. You are free to practice your religion as you see fit, as long as you don’t treat other Americans disrespectfully based on your views. If I were this man, all 10 of these kids would have burning eyes and running noses, at the least. Shame on you!


t-bag jones
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 3:23 pm Guess I made my point. NOBODY likes to be called names or physically harassed.
If they can’t take it, {being called names and told to go home to their country}, I suggest they do not do it to others.
Instead of teaching these youths discrimination through their God, maybe they should just follow the Golden Rule. Not some imaginary, invisible supposed deity.


Seth
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 3:44 pm Imagine the NATIONAL UPROAR there would be if this video showed a pack of white kids chasing after a few Somali men after they had attended a Somali cultural event, calling them the N-word, telling them to go back to their country, and calling them disgusting.How ANYONE could defend the actions of these kids, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion, is breathtaking.


Daniel
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 1:37 am Muslims are as big of hypocrites as Christians. Islam and Christianity both say death for breaking the Sabbath with any commerce. The governments and populations of so-called Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia and Iran routinely break the Sabbath. The USA and other so-called Christian nations do too. All the religious leaders in Islam and Christianity get paid to work on the Sabbath – they receive compensation for doing something their own religions say they should be put to death for. The Islamic posters on this site live in regions that break the Sabbath. Hypocrites one and all. It is pathetic. If the so-called “unerring” word of the Islamic-Christian deity were carried out, there would be no life on Earth. It is absurd and ridiculous. Grow up and be an adult: longsince dead cultures were ignorant and insane on many levels and trying to keep their ghosts and superstitions alive in the modern world is a sign of sheer stupidity.


Daniel
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 10:55 am No, I don’t hink Jesus killed anybody for breaking the sabbath, or for any other reason. Come to think of it, I don’t think he ordered anyone’s execution, either. He didn’t torture, or rob, or steal, or rape, or have sex with a 9 year old, or have sex with his daughter in law, or have sex with his wife’s servant, or have sex with his sex slaves, or have sex with the wives and daughters of the people he murdered……..


jimbo
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 12:36 pm immigrants used to have to work hard to assimilate into western societies, and they earned respect from others and personal pride by doing so. nowadays, the burden of change lies more and more with the destination countries, as there are more and more concessions made to accommodate all varieties of immigrants and their differences, perhaps particularly because of the dominance of politically correct discourse and even thought.


MBM
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 12:56 pm Clearly we (supporters of equal GLBT rights) have some work to do in outreach to the immigrant communities, particularly concerning the need to respect – and yes, tolerate – practices and beliefs that are different than their countries of origin. The behavior of the boys in the group was unacceptable.In the middle of this, please don’t make blanket statements about the Somali community. This same scene could have happened in a native-born American community. In fact, it often does.At the same time, people who are not from the city probably do not realize how well Somalis have actually integrated in Minneapolis. In banks, schools, government offices, and across the range of economic activities, Somalis are a hard-working asset to our city.Also, please avoid the attacks on Islam. There is no place for that either. We are not a theocracy, Christian or Muslim.


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Nowonmai
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 7:52 am Any way the little punks could be sent back to Somalia? ASAP?


Omar
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 8:11 am The problem is much bigger than “ethnicity” or “Somali culture.” For anyone that wants to gain a fuller understanding of what’s going on in this vid, I recommend “While Europe Slept” by Bruce Bawer (NB, as the author of “Stealing Jesus,” the guy’s progressive pedigree is unimpeachable). . . And btw, there’s undercover footage from several large, mainstream mosques in Britain in which imams instruct their votaries to quite literally kill homosexuals: ” . . . Throw that homosexual off a mountain . . .,” is one verbatim exhortation, and yes, it’s a direct instruction. See Dispatches Channel 4 “Undercover Mosque” and “Undercover Mosque: the Return.”


T. Nguyen
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 8:39 am The problem is that they are Somalians, and this is their culture. They are not going to “integrate”, the rest of the city must an will accomodate them. They will make the area more like their homeland. Research for yourself what happens in Somalia and in every town they settle in the U.S. Compare it to immigrants from Vietnam, Ethiopia, Armenia, etc.
There are many people all over the world who literally will risk their life for a chance to come to the USA. Some groups will integrate and become a positive contributor, others will grow as a liability. I am not trying to stereotype, everyone is an individual. You also though must look at the larger picture and question why one culture was allowed in en masse while another group is so limited.


Andrew
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 8:47 am I am ambivalent about homosexuality at times, as I admit I am uncomfortable with aspects of gay behaviour – though not gay sexaulity itself, to which I am indifferent. But watching this pooor guy being harassed by this bunch of little twerps really got my goat.How dare this bunch of little scumbags, some of them with their fat waddling asses, barley abel to keep up with him, harass someone minding their own business in the street? If they don’t like the freedom they have in the west, let them clear off back to the broken down rathole they came from.


Cletus
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 10:32 am If it was white men, or Christians, or especially white Christian men, this would be NATIONAL NEWS.Michael Jackson specials would be interrupted with hour long exposes on how homophobic this country is.Obama would give a speech about how the nation needs to move foreward, not back.Gay groups everywhere would be marching on the street. Pride just finished, but there would be rallies to rival it.

But of course, none of that will happen. If it’s not white Christians being bigoted, it doesn’t matter.


Greg
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 3:08 pm You people, including muslims, are purposefully avoiding how the whole group of muslims somalis behave. Look at the shit they are pulling in somalia. Go on. Study a few blogsites about islam.And as a group they are so stupid they follow the religion of a man who hated blacks and kept a few for slaves. Sheeesh. Islam appeals mostly to mean, cruel people. Oh, I have my own ‘cran to quote from too.


Teepot
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 3:32 pm Where ever there is islam, there will be no peace or understandin of the variety of human behaviour.Muslims can’t understand simple forgiveness or “turning the other cheek”, they laugh at that and think us christians are weak and easy to beat. Islam teaches to kill everyone who’s different or tries to question the religious authority.Get rid of islam, and there will be peace.


Jay
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 4:17 pm This behaviour is despicable. I really get tired of people telling me what to think and say. these kids were following what their culture and parent promote. It used to be, and still is in some instances that,people immigrated to a country for a better life and integrated into it to the best of their ability. Those who didn’t integrate for some reason kept quietly to themselves and did not bother others.
now we have a large number of people who immigrate with no intention of contributing or integrating with western society. They make it a regular practice of trying to force the host country to accommodate them instead. They also have no respect for our society. If anyone did this to them they would be complaining to the authorities in every way possible. They think that our acceptance of other people and cultures is a sign of weakness. Political correctness is a bain on our society. If they don’t like us so much they should go back to their own country. this should have been reported to the police and a complaint made.


caligari
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 6:55 am Identify the kids and jail their parents.


Vladtepesblog
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 7:34 am Lori:
You make the classic error of confusing pointing out the hate speech of Muslims with hate speech itself. Islam indeed preaches hate of everything non Muslim. In fact Moe was quite clear that its important to hate the ‘right things’ and this is still taught in pretty much all mosques. At this point in time, the European Ulma is now debating whether to obey European laws or go ahead and murder gay people as Koran insists you as Muslims do. It would appear a lot of Muslims are not waiting for that decision and are killing them and beating them up anyway. So before you get all sensitive about how people speak about Muslims maybe you need to know two important things.
Islam is a religion which means a stated set of beliefs people may or may not agree with or even find repulsive. Secondly, people can come or go from Islam. It is a beliefe set and like Nazism or communism is not in need of protection. I find all three beliefe sets equally repugnant and find no need to hide that or apologize for it. All three have a brutal track record for mass killing in its names. If you object, prove me wrong. Lets see a week go by without a few thousand people being murdered by the religion of peace all over the world.


James B
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 9:10 am Haha – gays and libs get their comeuppance for wanting to import muslims into their stateI hope Al franken sees this but tis a shame that stupid liberals want to befriend and defend muslims


James B
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 9:13 am ” i am not scard atall”wow go to a muslim country and talk about having Gay Pride ParadeNo better to call up Air America and bash bush, israel,,,


Greg
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 11:50 am The “progressive” morons in Minneapolis are well on the way to destroying a once beautiful city by encouraging/allowing Somolis to settle there. There have been several “incidents” over the past few years, and it will only continue to get worse. I was born and raised in Minneapolis, but left in 1969, and never looked back!


Timmy
Comment posted July 4, 2009 @ 1:02 pm Liberals will say that the gays should have denied being gay in order to avoid upsetting the precious peaceful Muslims who merely are from a different culture that we all MUST respect and cherish!Imagine the if man being harassed has shouted some sort of anti-Islam slogan back at them. He would have likely been killed and today liberals would be saying that he got what he deserved for failing to properly respect the peaceful followers of Muhammad and their quote unquote religion.


haole
Comment posted July 5, 2009 @ 3:15 am Maybe you gays should reconsider voting for Hussien Obama and the Dems who support Islam. Try being openly gay in Saudi, pakistan, Iran or anywhere in the Islamic World. Women who want to dress freely and not have their cliterus chopped off should also consider the democratic agenda.Islam = nazism = communism.


Mohammed
Comment posted July 5, 2009 @ 8:29 am Good work my brothers, Muslims will prevail over this western gay culture. Inshallah.May Allah and the prohet mohammed protect us all and show us the real way of life.


Sam
Comment posted July 5, 2009 @ 8:31 am WTF???? what would happen if we reversed roles ppl!!!what if the gay white man was a MUSLIM and the 10 somalian black muslims were young Christian white youthCan you imagine the MEDIA coverage around the world if a black or muslim minority was harrassed and followed and attacked???Gay’s are also minorities, just because they are white doesnt make them accepted and majority

Also, muslims would have rioted by now if this happened, just like millions rioted of rumours of koran burning or a teddy bear named mohammed. THis gay chap stayed QUITE positive and joked it off, wish he fought back


Mohammed
Comment posted July 5, 2009 @ 8:32 am good work fellow muslims!


Timmy
Comment posted July 5, 2009 @ 4:56 pm Naive people in the West MUST quickly learn that Islam is extremely collective in character, the individual counts for little or nothing. Also, in the same way that this forum deletes comments permanently transforming the discussion into something it otherwise would not be, tempering it, softening whatever real outrage people have, for whatever reasons the censors choose, under Islam MAJOR restrictions limit any and all real discussion of change, reformers are just killed, dissenters silenced. No one can question Islam the Koran or Muhammad. This is why they end up having dictatorial governments and democracy and democratic reforms are impossible where Islam has power.


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Ali
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 8:35 am Calm down people!!!
All I read in this article and its comments is either gay bashing or bigotry against the Muslims. What about those who are both gay and Muslim like myself? Does that mean we should put up with all the hate from both sides? Please do not generalise everything and everyone just because of a small particular incident.


Timmy
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 10:05 am It isn’t bigotry to recognize simple basic factual realities. Whatever problems exist in the West for selected minority groups, anyone who cares even a little bit about saving the West and the freedoms we enjoy including those selected minority groups and their freedom to gripe and complain or have parades or whatever they do, allowing Islam to spread in the West will without any shred of doubt destroy those freedoms, absolutely positively without a doubt. And you can add to the list of minority groups who will suffer, Christians, Jews, atheists, other non-Muslims, dogs, pork eaters, the list is endless. Either the West excludes Islam or it submits and is destroyed by Islam, there is no middle ground.


Omar
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 10:34 am Ali:I don’t hate you, I hate the shariah based laws that YOUR SCHOLARS, YOUR SCHOOLS, YOUR MEN, AND YOUR ISLAMIC GOVERNMENTS are imposing on others through violence, fear and intimidation – for that is the only way that societies which impose islamic norms like gender aparteid and permanent second class citizenship for non-muslims are able to exist. You do yourself (and others suffering under islamic law) no favors by denying the abusive nature of such shariah based laws.


Adela
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 12:16 pm When is the gay community wake up and realize who their real enemies are??!!
They are hanging gay men in Iran,Saudi Arabia,Yemen and other muslim countries on a daily basis.
And make no mistake about it,they are trying to implement their homophobic agenda right here in the US.
I have seen with my own eyes packs of muslim barbarians beating gay people in the streets of Amsterdam,in broad day light…yes,in the Netherlands,the enlightened country who has welcomed muslims and now is about to be taken over by them…
Muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis are refusing to take blind passengers with guide dogs or the ones who carrie alcoholic beverages in their luggage,soon they will refuse the offer their services to women who are not wearing the muslim veil,and you`ve seen their attitude against gay men.
Wake up and demand your corrupt politicians to stop immigration from muslim countries if you want to keep your freedom that you now enjoy.


Freddie B
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 9:31 am “Mohammed” you will never understand our freedoms. Freedom is the right to disagree. Freedom is the right to NO RELIGION. FREEDOM WINS OVER RELIGION EVERYTIME!!!! I AM FREE TO NOT PRACTICE RELIGION IF I WANT. AND I AM FREE TO CALL MOHAMMED THE GREAT SATAN, A MURDERER, A PEDOPHILE!!! NOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? MURDER US ALL?YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AMERICANS WILL DIE FOR FREEDOM THAT WE WILL BE MARTYRS FOR FREEDOM BECAUSE IN THE END THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE TO LIVE FOR ON THIS EARTH…AND ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA INCLUDING GAY PEOPLE, IF NEED BE, WILL ARM THEMSELVES AND FIGHT TO THE DEATH.SARKOZY IS RIGHT, WOMAN MUST NOT BE TREATED LIKE PROPERTY BY OPPRESSIVE GARMENT….


Alex
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 11:21 am I would like to point out that nowhere in the description of the video does it say Somalian. It just says kids. I saw the video within a couple days of it being posted so I highly doubt the poster edited the comment after posting it. It is pretty despicable to call them Somali.


Omar
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 12:54 pm Alex:This event occurred a few days ago right after the gay pride parade in Minneapolis as the victim was passing through a Somali muslim enclave. This can be easily verified.


Timmy
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 2:52 pm Freddie B, don’t be so sure that freedom will win over Islam. Islam has destroyed some of the greatest civilizations known in the history of the world. Were those people so stupid, so pathetic, so ignorant, such fools that they just allowed Islam to take them over? Islam forces people to submit by being utterly relentless. The rules it establishes make every inch of ground that it takes nearly impossible to get back. You wonder if they will just kill us all, well in a word, yes if that is what it takes, but the fact is most people will just become Muslim once they see the writing on the wall. Very few people will in fact choose death over just becoming Muslim, even if they think they are just “pretending” to accept Islam just to get to live. Naive people in the West must learn very quickly that waiting until the last moment decades from now to all of a sudden stop Islam from taking over and destroying the Constitution and democracy will not work. By then there will be Muslims in all of the police departments, governments, army, etc. and they will work from inside the system to make sure all resisters are mercilessly crushed, just like is done today in Islamic countries. The time to act is now before it is too late, and before it comes to literally war in the streets.


mister 880
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 3:43 pm Hey Minnesota; where was your brain when you decided to import muslimes from somalia? Another moronic liberal government inspired idea to destroy this country piece by piece. It’s probably too late but this government had better wake up and begin deportations of everything muslime. I’ll bet Minnesota was once a nice place to live!


Hoss
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 5:06 pm As always I say: Read the holy (bruhaha) Quaran, best the whole thing, but sura 4, 8 and 9 will give you a first insight. And while you are reading this text, be aware, that this is in the opinion of 1,5 billion people the REAL WORD (not to be discussed) of their imaginative overlord !!! And when you read things like “slay the unbelievers”, then it is meant as an order for all time – or till all the world is Dar-al-Islam.
And the “peace” in “Islam ist the religion of peace” is the “peace” meant in R.I.P.
Greetings from Germany
HossP.S.: Please apologize my bad English 🙂


Rainer Horning
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 6:43 pm well, you wanted those people in your country..now you got them, why to complain? Meanwhile ,people like me with university degrees from Europe, we got problems to immigrate into US. Ok.: Canada is (still) another solution.


Timmy
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 9:21 pm Instead of people with University degrees from Europe the U.S. is importing illiterate Mexicans and Muslims from all over the world. It is beyond moronic and is surely going to destroy America.


Angela
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 2:26 am To all of you who are spreading hate, please stop. What these kids did has nothing to do with the somali community. As for Islam, stop the hipocrisy, every Abrahamic religion bans homosexualty including christianity, how many hate cirmes cases do we know that been commited by Americans against gay people here in the U.S? and some of you talk about how stupid is to allow muslims to come to our country, how clever is to envade a muslim country while your own people dont have health care? first answer that . and please people, grow up, we all live in this world at the end of the day everyone needs the other person, immagine if all the muslim countires stop giving us oil, we stop giving our money what would happen?


planetspinz
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 2:32 am and if they did not yell antigay hate at the guy and were just chasing him down the street and throwing stones at him, would you all say they were just being kids or would you say pick them up and toss them in jail?


Timmy
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 8:57 am Islam is not really an Abrahamic religion, Muhammad made that up to try to con the others into following him. Based upon their personality, their actions, what is written about them in the Koran and in the Bible, OT and NT, Allah and Yahweh are not the same, in fact they are opposites. And given the persecution of Jews prevalent in the Koran and Islam they are in for serious punishment from Yahweh on Judgment Day. Genesis 12:3.


River
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 10:25 am I love USA and your life style. 15 years I tried to immigrate into America, and I always denied by the U.S. government. I am educated, industrious, honest, but not enough for the U.S. government.
And I always wondered, how people who hate your country easily get a visa and green card.


Devlin se Draak
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 11:07 am Scenes such as these only serve to convince me all the more that Islam will NEVER live peacefully with its neighbors in Western Countries.They will not accept anything even remotely different to their limited weltanschauungs.Why do they flee the cesspits that are their homelands, come here freely and of their own choice, then immediately try to recreate in their newly chosen homelands the cesspits they left behind.Hey, muzzies, if you do’t like it here, I invite you to go home.


P. Dunn
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 12:33 pm Oh good lord, racists, please go away. Especially those of you who extoll your high-falutin’ European educations in comments rife with misspellings, grammatical errors and poor punctuation. These are kids. Stupid, immature kids. I don’t think they should be held up, idiotic as their behaviors are, as indicators of whether Islam or Somalis are good or bad. We should decry what they do, but to wrap it in simplistic rants against Islam or refugees is just as dumb.


Timmy
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 5:04 pm P. Dunn, you prove perhaps without realizing it that one can make grammatically correct, properly spelled and punctuated statements that are actually dumber than statements made which have spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors. Do you know the following facts, not opinions; most (meaning far more than 50%) of the Islamic world is illiterate, that they recite the Koran in Arabic even though they don’t know the Arabic language, that the ADULTS of the Islamic world including the ruling elites and the religious scholars are much harsher toward gays than the kids in this video, that Arab Muslims are the worst racists in the world today routinely treating black Africans – even those who are Muslim truly horribly, that slavery still exists in the Islamic world, that the Koran and Islam cannot change because Muhammad told them it was dictated word for word to him from Allah through an angel and is perfect in every way? Try to move beyond the simplistic notion that anyone who states uncomfortable facts about Islam is somehow racist, it is the intelligent thing to do, correct spelling and grammar or not. To suggest that America is better off importing illiterate Mexicans and Muslims than importing educated Europeans who share the common cultural history of the West and America is truly idiotic.


mister 880
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 6:09 pm River brings up a good point. The U.S. for the most part used to accept immigrants from civilized countries who would become part of the melting pot. Now we’ve opened the flood gates to third world trash (muslimes) who hate this country yet seem to be able to come here at will. The liberal appeasement democraps will some day have to answer to the ruination of this once great country.


Timmy
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 6:29 pm from an earlier comment: “Secondly, people can come or go from Islam.”Actually that is not true. The only reason that Islam is as big as it is, the only reason that it has not shriveled up and died off hundreds of years ago, is that you can’t leave Islam, there is a death penalty for those who try to leave Islam. This is basic standard orthodox doctrine not some sort of “extreme” interpretation. It really shows just how pathetic Islam is, how insecure it is, that it allows zero criticism, and it kills those who try to leave. Think of other organizations that act that way, cults, the mafia, gangs, communist states, etc.


Alex
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 7:23 pm How do you know this person was passing through a somali enclave? Where in the video does it say that? Even if you insist on claiming they are somalis, by putting that the video description says it when it doesn’t is misquoting the source.


Angela
Comment posted July 8, 2009 @ 10:18 pm Timmy, I happen to be American born muslim, no one is forcing me to stick with this religion,and you cmay hate Islam as long as you want, no one is stopping you from that, but it’s silly to post your opinions, which by the way are incredibly false. Truly, i would applause you, if one thing you wrote is even true.


Timmy
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 8:40 am Angela, it is true that you have many freedoms HERE IN THE WEST, IN AMERICA, but you wouldn’t have those in any country that is controlled by Islam. The problem is that you will lose those freedoms along with everyone else as Islam spreads and gains more control here in the West and in America. The truth about Islam is becoming known to more people especially due to the internet. It would be nice if countries where Islam was in control allowed Christians to go to their countries and build churches and preach about the peaceful message of Jesus Christ and allow Muslims to freely choose if they would like to be Christian or atheist instead of Muslim. But you know that is not allowed. Islam cannot be judged by how it is presently practiced in America where it has no power.


Omar
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 11:15 am Timmy:What a great comment. Also, Angela, even in western countries, muslims are now threatening apostates with death. I don’t think I can post it here, but there was an excellent documentary a few years back produced by Dispatches Channel 4 in Britian (the creators of “Undercover Mosque,” which is, in itself, one of the most important documentaries I’ve ever seen). It’s called “Unholy War” and it chronicles the plight of several former muslims living in Britian, the secrecy of their churches, and what they have endured due to their apostasy. It used to be available on Youtube, and as far as I know, it still is.


Angela
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 2:27 pm Okay, lets get things straight here for once, i agree that most “islamic countries” are not where i would want to live, but you also need to keep in mind most of these countries are under the rule of some dictators who know nothing about islam or human rights, and thats unfortunate. Its not fair to crticize a religion based on what the media says or “youtube”. Immagine if one lists all the negative things that happen here in our country, and they blamed it on christianty would that be fair? If jesus was here would he approve half of the things that goes on here? I dont think he would.


mjazz
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 3:49 pm t-bag deplores the bigotry that we don’t want to import and “Bill Murray” calls him the biggest bigot here? A mohammaden in Sweden says that when he commits crimes there he “feels like he’s fighting Sweden.” A civil, democratic society is a fragile thing and when you import a bunch of hooligans who don’t give a sh!t about either and start raping, beating, murdering people and destroying things in the name of religion and they start gaining in numbers, then you’re in a heap of trouble. Let them settle in ‘BM’ s neighborhood.


mjazz
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 3:52 pm Angela, if you read the koran yourself you’ll see that the religion itself is all about violence and the subjugation of unbelievers and women. To be fair, some islamic countries have risen to a higher morality than their religion. For a general overview one should check out thereligionofpeace.com.


mjazz
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 3:54 pm Sorry, I didn’t scroll up far enough to see that you are muslim. Forced conversions and death for converting to other religions is common though.


Timmy
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 4:42 pm The control that Islam has is multi-layered and that is what makes it impossible to resist once it has wrested control. Everyone likes to blame “dictators” for the problems in the Islamic world but that misses the point. Any society is ruled not just by laws and leaders but by the actions of the millions of people who choose to either follow laws voluntarily or break them if they disagree with them. In Iraq when the dictator was removed and democracy attempted the various groups of people still fought for their own visions of what the society should be. Anyone being honest has to admit that democracy there will fail and all the lives and money spent by the U.S. will have been wasted. Even if most of the people don’t want Islam to play a large role much less have full Sharia, they are not able to resist those who do want that. Look at Iran, those protesters couldn’t remove the powerful force of Islam there if they gave their lives for it, in the millions. The Muslims who remain Muslims may want some other peaceful form but they still want Islam. People in the West are accustomed to liberal interpretations of religion where for all intents and purposes they have made up their own interpretation that has nothing whatsoever to do with the reality of the religion and its writings. With Islam that is very hard to do once enough people in the society are Muslims since just a small group can force the entire community to go along with the Orthodox traditional Islam. Very few people are willing to die to try to resist them. Until VAST numbers of Muslims choose to join together and risk their lives and KILL anyone who wants Sharia or any other harsh forms of Islam there is no way it can be stopped. And we know that will never happen. The exact same problems will occur in America as communities have enough Muslims in them. Check out the actions of the Muslims at the Arab Festival in Michigan on youtube, it is unreal (search for arab festival acts17).


JustFacts
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 5:17 pm 13,556. That is the number of deadly terror attacks that Muslims have carried out since September 11, 2001. Those numbers speak for themselves.


mike smith
Comment posted July 9, 2009 @ 5:25 pm Hey everyone please lets get a grip. Stop attacking the muslims for adhering to their religious beliefs. Instead lets play the moral equivalency game because Christians wont come stab you in the back as you walk down the street for saying “not nice things” about them.Christians wont rape your daughters like the muslim taxi drives in the UK and do it because raping a infidel i.e. non muslim, doesn’t count. Infidel rape doesn’t count, because the infidels are subhuman – especially infidel women – it says so in the quran and ahadith.Instead pray to God that you don’t offend a bunch of muslims. Of course your mere existence is an affront to islam because you are not muslim so praying may not really be that much of a help.


Eric
Comment posted July 11, 2009 @ 10:54 am Another example of how the Culture and Religion from Islamic countries is INCOMPATIBLE with western Society, given a chance this mob will grow up and over through all of our Democratic Ideals and Freedoms. Try Dhimmi Watch..and think about closing our bourders to a religion of hate and murder and open it to the Buddhist, and Christians and any other religion that Islamis murder in the name of conversion and Peace


Sebastian
Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 7:31 pm All these Somali boys are the ofsprings of the “refugees from Somalia’,which our country is very generously imposted them. but this is the’ reward ‘we get from these ungrateful Somalis. Recently, the Somali cab drivers refused to carry blind people with dogs,or those who carry dutyfree liquor form air ports. How long our politicians are blind for these atrocities? Instead of these people, why don’t the American government bring into our country, the suffering Chrisjjtians in the Middle east such as Egyptian Copts,Pakistani Christians,who are tormented daily,and their daughters are kidnapped,converted to Islam ? Enough of these unwanted poeple in our midst.


gooDNESs
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 2:28 am whatever any one says, he says it to his\her own purse.people only sound sour because they have beefs for Islam and most of them know little or nothing about this beautiful deen.
Hate it or love it, Islam will continue to prevail and stand the test of time. Cant you see the number of new revertees?we will keep counting,we’ll kkeep winning!
”WE ARE PLEASED WITH ALLAH (SWT) AS OUR LORD, AND ISLAM AS OUR RELIGION AND MUHAMMAD (SAW) AS OUR PROPHET.”


gooDNESs
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 3:00 am infact, after watching the videos, i discovered it was a directed video. its highly possible that its a proposed one to blackmail muslims in somalia. this is not the first of such.


Salma Hussein
Comment posted August 1, 2009 @ 3:55 pm Hello everyone.The truth is that these youth have chosen to do something of their own will. Just as the actions of one person doesn’t define the character of an another group. These youth might be Somali, but they do not represent all somalis. For the record America is the land of immigrants my dear for those of you who like to take ownership and making it seem like your doing the Somalis a favor. You got to america a little earlier than we did, but that gives you no more right to this great land than that i have. I would advice you all to look at the bigger issue of educating our youth regardless of their ethnicity.


Mr. funny
Comment posted August 3, 2009 @ 12:10 am Hello folke,Somali teenagers expressed their thoughts today and I don’t think the parents shouldn’t be blamed for this bad action happened to the victim. Many of the Somali parents doesn’t know about the practice of homosexual, or simply they don’t want to talk about this with their children.
Because, they want thier children act positively (Maintaining our values and respecting others).
One thing is for sure though, if you put the time infront for thirty years, many of our people will be accaltured and they may embrace this practice. Mistakes are expected from new cultures in America always, Somalis are one of the newest immigrants in the US and culture shock were expected from them. If this exists, those of you, who understand little, shouldn’t blame the parents you help them interprete their words.Let’s wait until we adopt the new culture and I wish our mistakes will be purdened for atleast 2 decades.


Wow some of you are dumb
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 12:30 pm Seriously, haole… “Islam = Nazism = Communism.” First of all, Islam is a religion, not a political ideology like the other two. Also, Nazism and Communism are just about as different as things get. With Nazism being a combination of Fascism (glory for the perfect state) and racism (those not like us are bad) and Communism being the idea that everyone should help one another because people are naturally good, social creatures. Sure the only attempts at Communism have ended up as totalitarian regimes, but that’s only because they were not in fact Communists.Also,Teepot “Where ever there is islam, there will be no peace or understandin of the variety of human behaviour.
Muslims can’t understand simple forgiveness or “turning the other cheek”, they laugh at that and think us christians are weak and easy to beat. Islam teaches to kill everyone who’s different or tries to question the religious authority.
Get rid of islam, and there will be peace.”
Are you kidding? Where ever there is ANY religion there will be no peace or understanding. You talk about your Christian ideas of “turning the other cheek” as though there isn’t just as much hatred towards people who are different in Christianity


Wow
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 9:14 pm My ex-GF asked me to google this. Her friend Paul had mentioned it to her.I can’t believe how naive most everyone is, including that man in the video. A few of the replies have it right. The rest of you live a dreamworld where we all hold hands and sing Kumbiya, and the world is one big lovefest of different cultures embracing one another and all sorts of wonderful touchy feely human diversity.I’m sorry, it isn’t like that. No amount of wishful thinking can make reality anything other than what it is and will be and always has been.


Wow
Comment posted September 2, 2009 @ 10:29 pm BTW:I offer this link to a webpage by a Samolian who is opposed to terror and he explains what happened to Somalia these past few decades.http://terrorfreesomalia.blogspot.com/2009/06/cultures-collide-somali-youth-harass.html


Tom
Comment posted December 26, 2009 @ 4:44 pm Yay cults …


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omar
Comment posted August 27, 2010 @ 3:24 pm First of all these kids were speaking English and i really hate your double standards Americans you criticize our American BORN KIDS and call them somali when they screw up but if they were being abused you would take them out of the houses and call them American kids lol
Im glad they beat up that guy that was their opinion and no one elses and they should face the law same way too does sharia law make sense now? those stupid kids would be stoned also and humiliated the same way not saying they did anything wrong to that guy
Any one claiming to be somali and agay should come out to his community and then look at what will happen to him we will welcome him to Hell coz that is Evil


Mohamed
Comment posted September 29, 2010 @ 4:23 am wow


MN
Comment posted August 18, 2011 @ 4:04 pm The kids in that disgusting video just fortified the right to ever complain about someone discriminating against them. Whether they were Somali or whatever their actions are inexcusable and gutless. This is something that these kids have learned from their elders and peers. The fact that they are not able to realize that this sort of behavior towards another human being is wrong and cruel is truly frightening.Congrats, kids! You just joined the ranks of the intolerant racists and bigots…when it ever happens to you keep your tears and outrage to yourself as you have earned it based on your actions.


Matt
Comment posted August 18, 2011 @ 6:30 pm Has no one mentioned the factor that a DUDE WITH A BADGE ON WALKED RIGHT PAST THE WHOLE SITUATION???


IowaCentric
Comment posted August 18, 2011 @ 9:14 pm Here’s a thought: instead of trying to assign a group or culture to these kids and blaming that group or culture, why not simply pass this video around, ID the kids, and see what a bit of publicity and public shaming can do? Post it on FaceBook, release it to the press, share it to your friends and tell them to share it to theirs.Normally I’m not keen on social pressures, because it seems most often applied for pointless reasons (like not wearing the right shoes). But in this case, I think there’s cause for large-scale public censure. This is unacceptable behavior, no matter what the background is of these kids; there is no culture, religion, history, age, or race which can excuse it.


Levin
Comment posted August 19, 2011 @ 3:49 pm This was years ago. Let’s move on.


Warren Case
Comment posted August 19, 2011 @ 4:11 pm Notice the cop at :59? Useless, homophobic MPD!


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